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		<title>By: Francois</title>
		<link>http://www.alt-shift.com/blog/2008/10/07/on-eating-meat/comment-page-1/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>Francois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 14:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it really a question of ethics, and if so, based on what? Lots of stupid things have been done in history based on so-called ethics. 

What about plain old simple sensitivity? You can always ask yourself if your mind should accept or not the killing of a sheep or a chicken, but what about simply pay attention to how you feel about it, for what an everyday meal is worth in the occidental world nowadays.

Seeing how the life of animals have been reduced to a commodity here, where their killing is indistrualized, just made me sick.

In the middle of Ethiopia, I was confronted with a fresh animal being killed for dinner. In an area where the sense of surviving is there, your sensitivity adapts, and you feel ok with respectfully killing an animal to eat once in a while.

I don&#039;t base my decisions on ethics, but on sensitivity. When offered red meat, I will eat it. In the middle of nowhere, I will eat whatever there is. But don&#039;t ask me to go to the grocery store and walk that bloody aisle of prepackaged body squares. Besides, we have great vegetarian food available everywhere nowadays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it really a question of ethics, and if so, based on what? Lots of stupid things have been done in history based on so-called ethics. </p>
<p>What about plain old simple sensitivity? You can always ask yourself if your mind should accept or not the killing of a sheep or a chicken, but what about simply pay attention to how you feel about it, for what an everyday meal is worth in the occidental world nowadays.</p>
<p>Seeing how the life of animals have been reduced to a commodity here, where their killing is indistrualized, just made me sick.</p>
<p>In the middle of Ethiopia, I was confronted with a fresh animal being killed for dinner. In an area where the sense of surviving is there, your sensitivity adapts, and you feel ok with respectfully killing an animal to eat once in a while.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t base my decisions on ethics, but on sensitivity. When offered red meat, I will eat it. In the middle of nowhere, I will eat whatever there is. But don&#8217;t ask me to go to the grocery store and walk that bloody aisle of prepackaged body squares. Besides, we have great vegetarian food available everywhere nowadays.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.alt-shift.com/blog/2008/10/07/on-eating-meat/comment-page-1/#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, c&#039;est sûr que si McDo goûtait divin, j&#039;aurais un dilemme moral supplémentaire. Ça aide certainement à ne pas en manger considérant ce que ça goûte.

Sinon, je connais bien l&#039;argument que tu émets concernant les mulots tués dans les champs. C&#039;est d&#039;ailleurs mon argument personnel qui m&#039;empêche de considérer pratique ou même moralement adéquat l&#039;idée de &quot;Veganisme&quot;... Parce que tsé, que tu le veuilles ou non, même la production de légumes, comme tu le soulignes, implique de tuer des animaux.

C&#039;est un des points qui me fait pencher vers ma position actuelle : que de vouloir manger de la viande de façon éthique est peut-être moins pratique quand tu veux filer supérieur aux autres, mais c&#039;est certainement une position plus concrète et réfléchie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, c&#8217;est sûr que si McDo goûtait divin, j&#8217;aurais un dilemme moral supplémentaire. Ça aide certainement à ne pas en manger considérant ce que ça goûte.</p>
<p>Sinon, je connais bien l&#8217;argument que tu émets concernant les mulots tués dans les champs. C&#8217;est d&#8217;ailleurs mon argument personnel qui m&#8217;empêche de considérer pratique ou même moralement adéquat l&#8217;idée de &#8220;Veganisme&#8221;&#8230; Parce que tsé, que tu le veuilles ou non, même la production de légumes, comme tu le soulignes, implique de tuer des animaux.</p>
<p>C&#8217;est un des points qui me fait pencher vers ma position actuelle : que de vouloir manger de la viande de façon éthique est peut-être moins pratique quand tu veux filer supérieur aux autres, mais c&#8217;est certainement une position plus concrète et réfléchie.</p>
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		<title>By: Grimouille</title>
		<link>http://www.alt-shift.com/blog/2008/10/07/on-eating-meat/comment-page-1/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>Grimouille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Si tu commences à avoir une réflexion éthique sur ta consommation de viande, est-ce que tu vas avoir la même réflexion sur ta consommation de pois chiches ou autres légumineuses?  

Si oui, n’oublie pas que chaque année, des milliers de jolis rats des champs, des lièvres sympathiques et de charmants oiseaux au champ si doux sont décapités par des moissonneuses batteuses qui cueillent des légumineuses « bio ».  À mois, évidemment, que tu hiérarchises les animaux entre « les gentils » et les « méchants ».  Mais venant d’un gars qui a mangé des mollets de porcs, j’en doute!

Pour ma part, je ne mange pas de McDo.  Ma rationalisation est seulement différente.  Je refuse d’en manger, non pas parce que leurs pratiques détruisent l’environnement, tuent des animaux de façon… inhumaine, ou bien exploitent leurs employés boutonneux, mais bien simplement parce que McDo, ça goûte la marde.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Si tu commences à avoir une réflexion éthique sur ta consommation de viande, est-ce que tu vas avoir la même réflexion sur ta consommation de pois chiches ou autres légumineuses?  </p>
<p>Si oui, n’oublie pas que chaque année, des milliers de jolis rats des champs, des lièvres sympathiques et de charmants oiseaux au champ si doux sont décapités par des moissonneuses batteuses qui cueillent des légumineuses « bio ».  À mois, évidemment, que tu hiérarchises les animaux entre « les gentils » et les « méchants ».  Mais venant d’un gars qui a mangé des mollets de porcs, j’en doute!</p>
<p>Pour ma part, je ne mange pas de McDo.  Ma rationalisation est seulement différente.  Je refuse d’en manger, non pas parce que leurs pratiques détruisent l’environnement, tuent des animaux de façon… inhumaine, ou bien exploitent leurs employés boutonneux, mais bien simplement parce que McDo, ça goûte la marde.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.alt-shift.com/blog/2008/10/07/on-eating-meat/comment-page-1/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what... I&#039;m VERY interested in your experience. I have no innate desire to hunt, not even to wield a firearm, but I&#039;m in total agreement with your approach on the subject. I&#039;d be very interested in doing the same thing.

Let me know how it goes... I might very well join you next year!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what&#8230; I&#8217;m VERY interested in your experience. I have no innate desire to hunt, not even to wield a firearm, but I&#8217;m in total agreement with your approach on the subject. I&#8217;d be very interested in doing the same thing.</p>
<p>Let me know how it goes&#8230; I might very well join you next year!!</p>
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		<title>By: Joce</title>
		<link>http://www.alt-shift.com/blog/2008/10/07/on-eating-meat/comment-page-1/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>Joce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you probably know, I&#039;ve dabbled with the same issues lately, and I&#039;ve contemplated your &quot;step 2&quot; for a couple of years now. I wanted to have the chance to kill a lamb myself to prove to myself that I had what it takes to eat meat, but I never had the opportunity.

However, this year, I&#039;ll go and hunt deer. It&#039;s going to be the first time in my life that I hunt big game animal, and I&#039;m sure that if I manage to kill a deer, I&#039;ll be proud of it. 

It should also be noted that game animals are not only not grown, but they also have a chance not to be &quot;harvested&quot;. A chance that even the happiest steer grown for consumption will never have.

You should try it next year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you probably know, I&#8217;ve dabbled with the same issues lately, and I&#8217;ve contemplated your &#8220;step 2&#8243; for a couple of years now. I wanted to have the chance to kill a lamb myself to prove to myself that I had what it takes to eat meat, but I never had the opportunity.</p>
<p>However, this year, I&#8217;ll go and hunt deer. It&#8217;s going to be the first time in my life that I hunt big game animal, and I&#8217;m sure that if I manage to kill a deer, I&#8217;ll be proud of it. </p>
<p>It should also be noted that game animals are not only not grown, but they also have a chance not to be &#8220;harvested&#8221;. A chance that even the happiest steer grown for consumption will never have.</p>
<p>You should try it next year!</p>
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